Can We Bring Spencer's Economy to Life?

The problem lies with socialism creates laziness. Companies can no longer pay good workers a good wage because they are required to pay people the same. Benefits, are no longer Benefits, they are expected to be received by all. These are a few problems that have been created by equal pay and affirmative action laws.

We have cut a businesses ability to choose and take risk. Taking less risks yield little to no rewards. The fact that those 200 companies employ only 1% is meaningless. You made a comment that art provides jobs(bull) for non artists. Well all those companies get materials and equipment and services from so many more companies. Quit making up garbage.

Going green is nothing more than a ponzi scam. It is another way the left is trying to redistribute wealth. If you haven't been paying attention global warming is a farce. It is pretty simple when you think about it. Carbon dioxide is produced every time you exhale. Plants need Carbon dioxide to thrive. They produce oxygen, which we need. Plants do better in an environment rich in carbon dioxide, they intern produce more oxygen. These so called scientist have fabricated all the data. If going green made sense it would not have to be subsidized.

If the local economy could provide what we wanted cheap enough, we could and would by it there. I am sorry but my responsibility is to my family first. I am not going to go to the local business and pay 20% more than I can on the internet. That is just stupid. The local business like any business needs to learn how to be creative and compete, or disappear. Just like the farmer, learn how to compete or sell to someone who can. Just because your family has had a farm for 100 years doesn't mean I should subsidize your existence. There has been plenty of family business that have gone under because the younger generation has not been creative enough to succeed. Yet we keep the farmers going, foolishness.

Basically what you have described is Communism and it has never and will never work. It creates no incentive for achievement or even putting in an honest days work. Unfortunately we have passed a lot of laws that have done the same in this country. We have also let Unions in to many places. This is why companies keep sending jobs overseas.

I do think that we need God to be more involved in our society. We need people to in need to call on the church, not the government. Charitable organizations can better distribute money to the needed than the government.

I know that most of my writings enrage a lot of you. That is good. The truth hurts. I would encourage all of you to take an honest look at the mess we are in and why. It is not Bush, Clinton, Carter, it goes back to FDR. When we created big government to pamper our nations needed, we created programs that have pampered not only the needed but the lazy. There are a lot more lazy people. Government is not our friend it is our Enemy. We need to eliminate government from our lives and we can have local jobs again, and a vibrant economy.

DWD, I wouldn't say you enrage me, but the fact that you think others argue with you because "the truth hurts" did provide me with some entertainment. Thanks. Sometimes, I can agree with your general ideas, but, like Glenn Beck, you take them way too far. I think we all need to be careful about pushing this nation towards wither edge. A nation led by extremists in either direction is headed for disaster. Just ask the people of Iraq, Afghanistan, North Korea...

Green is a scam maybe when you watch propaganda media like PMSNBC you don't see it. Maybe you haven't read that most of the data was made up based on observations made by hikers and skiers. If you are not going to look at true science then that is your problem. You probably think that autism is linked to the mmr vaccine even though the medical journal just said no way no how.

We do subsidize big farms, which I do not agree with subsidizing them either. However they create more jobs than the little farms. They also will be able to afford to make the changes necessary to keep the water clean. Which is the only concern.

Business should get tax breaks, they are not coming to Iowa which has a very high state income tax, unless we give them a break. However if Iowa lowered the state income tax, there would be more jobs. Even Democrats know the dirty little secret that the best way to create jobs is to cut taxes.

You are right about something there needs to be a grass roots movement to get rid of the idiots that we have had leading our community far to long. Under their watch Spencer has fallen behind Spirit Lake, Storm Lake, and probably Sheldon as far as the hub of the area. One reason is they have been focused on making Spencer "beautiful." What a joke, people don't come to a city because it looks nice. They have to be able to get a job there. If people have a job the community will be attractive. They put parks in the Ghettos too, nobody wants to live there. Why, no jobs.

Even with high wages we will have to spend money on title XIX and all that other bull crap. We need to end that crap tomorrow. People need to be self reliant. Now in typical liberal fashion you are going to think I am against poor people. Kind of, I am all for helping people who are neither mentally or physically capable of helping themselves. If you are(or were capable before you became 400 lbs living off my tax money) of walking, and have the mental capacity(that you feel you can vote), work or starve. If you are working and can't make it(single mom, dad, family) I am willing to keep you lights on and food on the table. If you have cable tv, cell phone, internet, not so much. If you are getting government money and are caught with cable, internet, cell phone, nicer than a beater car, you should be cut off from any additional government funds. I do not think it is your right to have a good life. It is your right to have a chance at a good life.

You are both right and wrong about being led by extremists. We have been led by extremists for awhile now. FDR, Pelosi, Reed, Kennedy(all of them), and now Obama are all socialists. We have had groups like MOVE ON, ACORN, RAINBOW COALITION, ACLU are all extreme groups. We all walk on egg shells because of them, unless you are a minority then you can say and do as you please. The truth is we need people to actually have the conviction to speak up, and not be scared to be called a racist, sexist, or and other ist.

Skyjarrod -- a retail center? That sounds like Spencer wanting to reach out to out-of-towners' money to enrich store owners (and admittedly possibly creating some retail entrepreneurship opportunity, whether private store or chain) and not so excited about jobs with decent wages for the people in Spencer. I have only been in the area about 3 1/2 years so I don't know all the history and appreciate getting the backstory.

DOWNWITHREPS, at the risk of getting of subject, your "knowledge" of global warming is appallingly bad. Carbon dioxide is a natural product and does cycle through the environment - this is about the only thing you had remotely correct. See, the difference is that the CO2 I exhale was part of the current cycle. Fossil fuels (you do believe in fossils don't you?) contain carbon that was sequestered from the environment hundreds of millions of years ago. As that carbon based fuel is burned, it produces NEW CO2 that is being added to the environment - this was not part of the current cycle. This in turn causes an increase in CO2 levels. CO2 is a demonstrated greenhouse gas (and yes the greenhouse effect is a well established scientific phenomenon).

Wow, DOWNWITHREPS, your lack understanding of science is astounding. You said "That CO2 that was sequestered what is your point. We were not part your idiotic cycle hundreds of millions of years ago." That was precisely my point (and exactly what part of the carbon cycle is idiotic?)Other living beings were part of that cycle (you do realize that there were species on Earth prior to humans don't you?) and as they died off other species took their place, including humans. We have since taken that CO2 from long ago and released it into the atmosphere - which overloads the cycle. With no knowledge of science whatsoever, I find it remarkable that you feel qualified to identify any of it as junk science. I guess all I can say is WOW.

First of all Diesel is cleaner than gasoline to begin with. Second you two must live in a cave, or are too ignorant to see that all the reports have been bogus. The story that excess CO2 and global warming cause more rain and stronger storms was a complete fabrication. We are a little self centered to think we can have a major impact on our planet. Yes we may be able to run a species into extinction, but that is how it works. Species evolve or die off. I just can't believe that you are hanging on to the Global Warming thing when it has been proven not to be science. The fact that the people heading up the research knowingly falsified the data should be a pretty good indicator.

They did not use science. They took ideas with no research or data and published them as fact(more severe weather). They eliminated temperature markers from their studies and significant amounts of them(the ones that showed cooling). I have lived in Iowa all my life. My parents grew up in Iowa as well. They have told me stories about how much snow they would get, it finally looks like we live in the same place. We have evidence(not made up junk) to show that are temperature fluctuation is based on sun spot activity. That is probably way to complicated for a hippie to understand, because it involves real research.

I don't get caught up in hysteria, I suppose the two of you rushed in and got the H1N1 vaccine. Because the government didn't lie about that either. Do you know that over %50 of the reported deaths were not even caused by H1N1, for that matter even the number of cases reported was a lie. It was a pandemic, but killed less people than the average seasonal flu. Pandemic, run buy disinfectant, get a shot, do as we say. Sounds just like this Global Warming crap. The Earth is dying, hurry quick buy a new car(less energy efficient), plant some trees, don't eat meat(a book that was over 300 pages handed at on how to be a vegetarian at the climate summit, killed a lot of trees, how environmentally sound), let us tell you what you can and can't do. Well you two lemmings can walk off the cliff. I am going to continue to drive a big truck, eat my steak, and use incandescent light bulbs(a lot less toxic by the way) so I can actually see when I turn on the light.

It is funny how people all over the world get the news, and now that we live in a free country we get propaganda. When these stories came out, the rest of the world is calling for the heads of these clowns, but the Idiot you two elected doesn't want to hear the truth. The rest of the world has jumped off the bandwagon, so we will be the only ones that will kill our economy if we keep doing this.

The story of Santa Claus has a better chance of being a reality. You keep holding on like lemmings, that is exactly what they want. Buy the overpriced light bulbs, bring your own shopping bags. You can actually find that every claim these Hippies have made is false, minus one we are producing more CO2. However it is not changing our climate. Take some time and actually look up the true science and you will see you have been manipulated. Just like all the parents that do not vaccinate their children because Jenny McCarthy(she went to Med School and seems like she has an IQ of at least 75) says they cause autism. That has also by the way been proven to be a lie. Yet all you hear are these idiots allowed to propagate lies, and you don't hear the truth. It is all there plain as day you just have to open your mind and think for yourself.

And, for anyone who likes their big trucks, big steaks and other things money can buy, whom do you think will pay the tab when global warming starts costing us for real?

http://foundationcenter.org/pnd/news/sto...

Again from Pew, and yes, it's "by 2050" when many of us grownups will be gone -- I'll be about eighty years old then. But, what kind of world do I want for my grandchildren and possibly great-grandchildren?

LOL, DWD, and I do mean literally. You called the carbon cycle "idiotic"? You basically repeat another poster's point in a half-witted attempt to mock it? I'll say one thing for you, you do provide me with entertainment, even from halfway around the world.

I'm a fan of good reporting, so I went to globalwarminghoax.com to see if their credentials would match up to those of the Pew Charitable Trust.

What do you know? A Joseph Herron runs the site. On the About page there is nothing at all about Herron or where he acquired this knowledge he claims to have. There isn't even a link to email him or contact him any other way to find out more about his fascinating videos.

For all we know Joseph Herron IS DownWithDems or his friend or relative who knows how to upload video. There is a lot of similar ranting about Al Gore, as if he's the only one who's spoken out about global warming, and as if he did not base his research on scientific fact.

This is an open invitation for "Joseph Herron" if that IS his real name to contact us here. We have some questions about your extremist viewpoints and what science you've found to refute the evidence of greenhouse gases, CO2 concentration, global warming, climate change and other environmental concerns.

DWD -- just as an aside, my oldest son is autistic. I never thought it was vaccinations, but the information from activists just kept coming at me and coming at me. It was to the point that when I had a second son ten years later, I worked with my doctor to delay some of his vaccinations until he was older. If autism hasn't developed by the age of 3, the child is home free, so it is possible to make an alternate timetable of vaccinations as long as the child is not in daycare, but still have them all done by the time the child starts school. I would not have considered such a thing if I was not aware of the possible risk to my younger son.

My younger son has absolutely no autistic tendencies, and between the boys is a daughter who is very social and brilliant and also had no adverse effects from vaccinations.

I think Jenny McCarthy is not correct on the scope of risk inherent in vaccinations but I think they might have played a role in some cases -- not mine of course.

You make a good point on the extent to which one activist group (parents were blaming vaccinations long before Jenny Mc's son was born -- she just provided a familiar face) can influence policy and probably needlessly scare parents.

One activist like Joseph can make a difference, too, but in this case it is toward dismissing the reality of global warming because we just don't want to deal with it.

I do think Al Gore hurt the case for climate change. More people believe global warming is a hoax since 2007 when the movie was widely distributed. But I believe that's because, with or without Al Gore, climate change is an inconvenient truth.

Your assertion of hippies wanting to make money off this is very funny.

I love how they bring out the chalk board and refer to things as Xbox360. Really something I would believe, especially coming from FoxNews. I did get a chuckle out of these.

You say we need to watch what we put into the ground. How often is there water supply issues when the cattle lots that produce your steaks 'accidently' contaminate water sources? Sounds sort of hypocritical. Ohh, wait, bet FoxNews has something to say about that too. They aren't really being contaminated. It's a hoax I'm sure. Stick a straw in it and drink it then.

It is only because we have the ability of higher thought that we have come to think we can make a difference. That is our problem, we become arrogant. Nothing we do or have done is going to matter in the scheme of things. We will eventually become extinct like every other species. Whether we blow each other up, wiped out by disease, hit by a meteor, or some other event. It is going to happen. Once we are gone the Earth will be here. It it is full of CO2 in the atmosphere, or littered with solar panels, will be of no consequence.

We are the only species stupid enough to think that we matter. We have been here for such a short period of time(anywhere from 7000-200000 years depending on what source you want to believe), and will be lucky to make it another 10,000 years.

We need to be concerned with real issues. Taking out the terrorists, enforcing our border, creating jobs, and stop entitlement programs. If there is global warming and we are the cause, then you really need to view my posts and see that it doesn't matter what we do we can't stop it. According to the junk science calculations, we would have to stop producing CO2 for 33 years to stop 1 degree F increase in temp. No cars, electricity, anything. Good luck.

Even though the Junk Science numbers are wrong, if we do nothing we may see an increase of 1 degree F over the next 100 years. Not problematic at all.

DWD: I'm kinda tired and bored. Would you give us you opinion of Sara Palin? How do you think she would do as Prez?

I myself feel that Obama is doing a great job. He started his Presidency when there really is nothing good about the world right now. I think we need to give him time to work everything out with the economy....give the man respect, after all he is the President of the United States, doesn't that mean anything anymore to people? The world didn't go to pot overnight, and it's going to take much more than overnight to fix it. Maybe if the Democrats and Republicans would start getting along i would help things to go along a little faster....?

I have yet to make up my mind about Obama, but I think DWD, you are a little extreme in your view of him -- to the point you're inaccurate and out of perspective.

I'm sure you don't like FDR either for starting all those entitlement programs. I don't think he would have imagined they would be in full force 70 years later. He meant them as fixes to get the country through the Great Depression.

Even with the full support of Congress, and without the bratty back-and-forth from them, the media covering their personal issues nonstop, and the loss of congress members from both houses and both parties at an alarming rate, Roosevelt took NINE YEARS to really pull us out of the Depression. Then he had the start of World War Ii for a job creation machine. No president now would have that length of time. And we've proven that 21st century wars do nothing for the economy.

Obama has an unprecedented level of acute issues to deal with -- a depression (let's call it what it is) and a war at the same time. I wish they hadn't taken a whole year to fight about health care at the outset, but I think we can all afford to hang in there with him for a while longer.

Well you can feel however you want, but I feel have no empathy for anyone that voted for him and is struggling right now. This is his economy and nothing he has attempted has or will have any positive impact on our economy. Remember when he said we have to pass this bill and if we pass it unemployment will not go about 8%. Well that was a lie, he is manipulating the numbers just to keep it near 10%.

He has spent more money than every other president combined, and what has it done for us. Evan Bayh a democrat said that if he starts a business now that he is leaving senate it will be more jobs than Obama has created in the last six months. He is right. Look at the job created or saved count, it is funny that there are jobs created in zip codes that don't even exist. You can sit back and give him a chance, but if you don't wake up and look at how he is trying to turn America into the next great Socialist state. Even though there is no such thing as a great socialist state.

Roosevelt prolonged the depression, it was only the war that pulled us out. He also is the reason we are having the financial woes we do now. We need a depression, maybe that will wake people up. Our government needs to be a role model for fiscal responsibility, and maybe all these individuals who are reckless spenders will follow suit.

Obama is not a leader. A leader takes responsibility for his failures, Obama keeps blaming everyone else. A leader gets things done, he has accomplished nothing. Obama can deliver a speech(only with a teleprompter), but after that he is just a hollow suit. I not only hope he fails, but I am glad he is and will fail. America is waking up, and is going to kick the crooks and cons out of office. I am not proud that he is my president and do not have to respect him, that is what America is about. He wants to change that too. It was okay to bad mouth, disrespect, and destroy Bush, but if you say one bad thing about Hussein Obama you are a horrible person.

There is not one liberal policy that has succeeded long term. They all fail, because liberalism cannot succeed. Everywhere it has been attempted has failed to deliver. We have a chance to stop it and we need to.

in order to create more jobs we need more businesses to hire. in order to get more business to hire we need to first distribute the funds to local businessesas well to those to help them stort local businesses in ordr to keep money in community as well as get outside sources to spend there money in the community. now on to global warming. some well known info for u. millions of years ago an astroid made with carbon hit the eart in an explosion this carbon got relieses into the atmosphere. it causes a blockage of the sun and began the ice age. now according to global waming preachers excess co2 in the atmosphere causes by fossil fuel burning causes the earth to warm. well if history repeats it self wouldnt it cause the earth to cool down by blocking out uv rays from the sun? the global warming theory dont pan out.