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School Budget

Posted Thursday, February 19, 2009, at 8:31 AM

I will cut to the chase with regard to this budget issue...

1. Administrators need to take a pay cut

2. Administration needs to take the same insurance as the teachers

3. Allow athletes to skip PE and cut a PE teacher

4. If you want to save swimming & tennis, integrate those into the PE program.

5. Cut Jr. High sports and let the community absorb that responsibility. The programs are already there.

6. Refuse to pay the Y to use the pool. Most of those swimmers have been paying for their memberships, and their swim classes for years. It is time for the Y to give back a little.

7. Sorry for this one but when I was in school teachers did not have aides and administrators did not have assistants. They had summers off so they put in a little extra time during the year.

8. Get back to basics. Eliminate unnecessary classes that kids can take in college.

There are solutions that do not involve cutting academic curriculum. There are schools out there that have our same enrollment issues that have made their budgets work. Find those schools and borrow ideas. Offer our extra classes to surrounding schools. Pool our resources. And IF YOU HAVE AN ISSUE BE AT THE PUBLIC MEETING THIS SATURDAY. CALL THE SCHOOL AND YOUR ELECTED SCHOOL BOARD AND VOICE YOUR OPINION NOW!

Last and certainly not least of all, some of this burden rests with our city administration and the voters who have turned down industry such as the prison, the casino and various other businesses that could have been bringing people to this community. When you throw a pebble in a pond the ripples are far reaching.

-- Posted by Leah Cauthron on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 8:29 AM


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Leah:

Well said, and I agree with most of your points here. Whatever we can do to reduce overhead should be the priority. My parents were school guidance counselors and while we weren't rich, we lived much more comfortably than what Ed and I are able to do for our kids now. Yet with summers off, my dad spent time in military annual training, painting houses, and other odd jobs.

Items 1-6, I am right with you, though since I swam in high school and college, I'm unclear as to whether you'd cut tennis and swimming out as competitive sports entirely.

7. Aides and assistants -- to be fair, things have changed since we were in school. There's unfortunately more problems and less attention at home for many students. That shouldn't be the school's or teacher's responsibility, but it's the reality. There's less respect for teachers -- my cousin teaches fourth grade in the Twin Cities area and had one boy last year she literally had to hold on her lap or he'd run around destroying things all day. He had mental problems but had been "integrated" into her class.

This brings up another issue -- the one of many more special education students taking regular classes. I won't elaborate on this one much because my own autistic teenager is struggling in his regular classes and as parents we're struggling with whether to pull him out. He's not disrupting the classes, he's just -- not all there and is not working up to his potential academically. He's never had a one-on-one aide but there is one shared among a few students with problems in D's classes.

8. Unnecessary classes kids can take in college. Are you talking about AP courses and dual credit classes which, if the student scores well on the test in May, could allow the student to enter college with several freshman courses out of the way, thus saving his or her parents thousands of dollars in tuition or themselves thousands of dollars in future student loan debt?

Speaking again as a parent -- my seventh grade daughter was moved to eighth grade math due to her test scores. Great! Then the math teacher claimed C was not being challenged in her class (this is all foreign to me as I barely scraped by in math during school, had to take a college math course three times before I passed, and probably don't understand it to this day) and recommended C go to the high school to take Algebra. They provided a high school level test, C passed with flying colors and now in fact takes the bus from middle school to high school. At this rate, she will be in geometry in 8th, Trig in 9th and Calculus in 10th. Aside from dual credit or AP math courses, what can she do in school to keep learning in math the last two years? With AP or dual credit classes, she could enter college with some credits already taken care of.

I'm honestly not detailing this to brag. Like I said, for all of C's achievements, we're really struggling with D, and we have a kindergarten son, B, who seems pretty happy and average so far in school, so our children's need, or lack of need, for special classes or programs at school evidently has little to do with our parenting skills or possible lack thereof.

With twice as many kids, each with unique joys, gifts and struggles, I'm sure you can relate.

I worry that taking out too many classroom assistants and eliminating college level classes will create an environment where not all students can learn. No, I don't think the school should have to take on the obligation and expense of creating an individual program for each student. At the same time, I feel 7 and 8 could put us on a slippery slope to eliminating quality of learning items that will affect all students.

-- Posted by lakewriter51340 on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 2:36 PM

My son took AP classes and college classes and "technically" had enough credits to be considered a Junior at Iowa. However, he isn't because the college didn't really care about those credits. It hasn't saved us money. As a matter of fact he took those tests that pigeonhole kids into careers that they would be good at and he wasted time in HS classes and his 1st semester at college taking classes that the test said he would be good at. He has since changed his major and now wishes that he had taken different classes in HS. Back to basics.

-- Posted by Leah Cauthron on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 4:23 PM

Leah,

Saying that our schools are for education and not sports sounds good, but the reality right or wrong is that many parents put a high value on what sports their school offers. I think the community would loose too many students to open enrollment if you went in that direction. An example would be boys tennis. If you cut that sport out you would save around $5,000 but if you lost only 1 player open enrolling at Okoboji it would cost the district $5,700. I know personally of two family's who open enrolled their kids to Spencer when they brought swimming in.

Why has Iowa Lakes Community College added soccer and thinking of adding tennis in these tough economic times? Because their enrollment was going down and sports bring in more students.

-- Posted by Roberto on Fri, Feb 20, 2009, at 4:20 PM

I did not say eliminate sports. I said to let the community absorb the responsibility for the Jr. High sports. Everything is in place for that to be done. As far as tennis & swimming, let our exemplary PE program work with them. Make it part of the curriculum rather than playing cards during gym class. Above all else, Mr. Ebeling & his administration need to take a hit just like their teachers have.

-- Posted by Leah Cauthron on Mon, Feb 23, 2009, at 4:19 PM

I feel putting sports put into the PE curriculum is asking too much of our PE teachers. You need a coach to organize practice, meets, and go on 8-10 bus trips a season to have a competitive team. Unless your talking about going intramural, but if thats the case you have essentially eliminated the sport. Then you could sell the over 20 Lakes Conference championship trophies and half dozen state trophies that the tennis program has got since 1989 an no one would even know that the school had tennis. Except the 1,000 or so kids that went through the program.

Sorry Leah I didn't mean to rant. I agree with your overall point. I just don't like when people single out any one sport as having less value because they're not high profile. Why is swimming less valuable than golf? People need to start realizing that the days of kids competing in school sports for free may be over. One radical solution is "Pay to Play" I'm not sure if it's legal in Iowa but if it isn't they need to change the law. Charge each kid $25.00 to play in non revenue generating sports and it would cover the cost of that sport. If a parent can't afford it let them apply for a waiver.

-- Posted by Roberto on Tue, Feb 24, 2009, at 11:30 AM

Leah, while I agree with most of your ideas, I don't agree with #7! I'm not quite sure that you are aware of what aides do in the classroom. The work that a TA does has absolutely nothing to do with anything that a teacher can do in the summer. The aides are almost always assigned to a student, or most of the time multiple students that need help and can't function in a classroom on their own. Now aides are used to help with reading and other duties (recess) as well. The aides in our school system are just as important as any of the teachers!!

-- Posted by band-aid on Fri, Feb 27, 2009, at 4:00 PM

In order for some classes to be carried over to college, you must 1st talk to the college they plan on going to and make sure they accept them. We did this and kept an open line of communication with each step my son took. He graduated with a BA degree....actually 2 majors and 3 minors---in 3 years and a summer session of 3 months. We saved one semester (plus) in costs due to the AP classes he was able to take in high school. We figured with tuition, room, board, & books we saved over $8000.00. Sorry you had a bad experience, but don't paint it all with the same paint brush because our experience was very positive.

-- Posted by neetneet on Tue, Mar 3, 2009, at 11:16 AM


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Anything at all. I was raised on the same farm on which my dad was born. My parents still live there today. I graduated from Eastwood High in 1987 and from Eastern Wyoming College with a degree in Criminal Justice in 1989. I married Randy 19 long years ago and we have 6 children ranging in age from 3 to 18 years old. I have worked numerous jobs from detassling as a teenager, a legal secretary in California, church secretary in Iowa to a daycare provider now. I love being outside and hate doing women stuff inside. I would rather mow the lawn than do dishes or change the tire on my van than sort socks. I am patriotic, opinionated and sometimes loud. I am also a great mom, good friend and I love to laugh - I did marry Randy. I believe in common sense versus reading a book by some "expert". I don't pretend to have all the answers but I am willing to ask the questions that others are afraid to ask and sometimes to my detriment say the things that others only think about saying. I try to avoid confrontation but sometimes it finds me and almost all the time it is necessary to stimulate communication.
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